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PROBLEMS WITH PHILLIPS RECORDERS

Following is some information on the Phillips recorders in general which has some links to sites which may also help. You might also try to read the disc at 1x speed for both data and audio if you aren't already doing so.

If you have two CD drives (your burner and a CD-ROM drive), you might try using your CD-ROM drive to read the disc, then use your burner to write the image file.
 
DAE (Digital Audio Extraction) PROBLEM

Some recorders don't correctly extract digital audio if the pregap of the first track isn't exactly two seconds. A bug in the firmware causes the drive to start extracting slightly past the start of the track, and stop extracting slightly past the end. This can result in an audible glitch if the music starts at the exact start of the track, and can cause the drive to fail with an error when extracting the last track on the CD.

CDs that start at 00:02:32 (0 minutes, 2 seconds, and 32 blocks) are surprisingly common. The problem can be worked around manually, by looking at the output of the Jeff Arnold's (freeware) TOC program (available from http://www.goldenhawk.com) and supplying "/start=" and "/end=" parameters that adjust backward by the number of blocks in excess of two seconds.

For example, if the first track started at 00:02:32, you would subtract 32 from the starting and ending Logical Block Addresses.

A better solution is to use a CD-ROM drive that doesn't have this problem (and most likely can extract audio more quickly than the CD-R can).

The Yamaha CDR-100/102 and the Philips CDD2600 are known to have this problem, though it may get fixed by a firmware update. The Ricoh 6200S reportedly does not return the disc's table of contents correctly for these sorts of discs.

See http://www.km.philips.com/osc/cd-rw/index.html
See http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Bay/6893/

Models are the CDD522 (2x2/2MB), CDD2000 (2x4/1MB), CDD2600 (2x6/1MB), and CDD3600 (2x6/1MB;RW). The CDD3610 is a 3600 with an IDE interface. The CDD521 (2x2/256K) is an ancient model; if you use one, the firmware upgrade is strongly recommended (but nearly impossible to find). The Omniwriter/26 and /26A appear to be repackaged Ricoh 6200 and 6200I OEMs.

The CDD522 does not support reading of subcode-Q data. The CDD521, CDD522, and Kodak-labeled PCD225 have a sensor that can read the barcode data from the inner ring on a CD.

See the HP section for comments about the CDD2000 firmware. The firmware is kept in flash ROM, so it can  be updated with software obtainable over the net. You should be at version 1.25 or later for best results.

Digital audio extraction may not work correctly at higher than 2x on the CDD2600, especially near the end of the disc. Philips has acknowledged that audio CDs and packet-written CDs may not read correctly at 6x, but many users have had problems at 4x as well. It may also suffer from the block offset problem described in section (4-19). The CDD2600 supports packet writing, but is NOT flash upgradeable.

The CDD2600 may share the HP 6020i's difficulties with pressed CD-ROMs that have a small amount of data on them.

The initial release (firmware v1.0) of the 3610 was unable to create audio discs reliably using disc-at-once recording. Firmware v2.02 fixed this and some other problems.

Philips' drives, notably the CDD2600, have been shown to hang on some Amigas if SCSI disconnect is enabled and you try to read the session information from a multisession CD. Philips does not believe this problem happens on PCs, and consequently has declined to investigate further. If you are experiencing hangs when examining multisession CDs, try turning SCSI disconnect off for the CD recorder.

Drivers are available for the CDD2000 from: http://www.philips.com/sv/pcaddon/cdr/

Firmware updates are available here: http://www.km.philips.com/osc/cd-rw/download/index.html

CAVEAT EMPTOR - CDD2000. Some users of Philips CDD2000 and derivative units (like the HP4020i) have reported that the drives went bad over a short period of time, often 1 to 3 months. While these cases represent the minority of users, reports have been persistent. People with the technical skills (and bravery) required to replace a spring and/or lubricate inside the unit have reported good results (see section (4-10) for details). If you buy a CDD2000-based unit -- of which there are many -- be sure the dealer or manufacturer is aware of this problem and is willing to fix or exchange the drive should it arise.

A class-action lawsuit has been filed against Philips. Information is available at http://www.shortbusters.com/. A copy of the complaint is at http://www.shortbusters.com/lawsuits/philips/complain.html.

 

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